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發表於 13-6-1 23:59 |只看該作者
木土土 發表於 13-5-31 21:29
初中一樣,有曠課紀錄將來升大學無影響!作為初中家長,你既無知頗令人難以置信,勸你唔好以「唔知」作為藉 ...
曠課紀錄事少, 反而係讓小朋友覺得玩重要過讀書, 甚至可以不惜用籍口去隱瞞, 那才是問題.


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發表於 13-6-2 00:05 |只看該作者

引用:我係過唔到自己同埋真係好難同小朋友解釋點

原帖由 kyk 於 13-06-01 發表
我係過唔到自己同埋真係好難同小朋友解釋點解可以唔返學去旅行,點講咁做都係唔啱!你問學校,佢一定唔可以 ...
我都係過唔到自己,同埋唔想仔女覺得可以請假去旅行而唔返學。寧願比貴啲,都唔想比個錯嘅信息佢地!




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發表於 13-6-2 00:08 |只看該作者
tochest 發表於 13-6-1 23:59
大拿拿waste d money? 你真富有
這不能叫waste money 或富有, 個個家長都有旺季才可去玩的問題, 大不了暑假去平d 地方玩.
小朋友上學係佢責任, 總不能因為省錢而讓小朋友不負責任, 甚至教小朋友可以用藉口去合理化. 日后小朋友逃學去玩仲講大話, 到時可以怪誰?


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Imagist  講得啱!  發表於 13-7-2 10:03


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發表於 13-6-2 00:13 |只看該作者
瑩瑩老豆 發表於 13-6-2 00:08
這不能叫waste money 或富有, 個個家長都有旺季才可去玩的問題, 大不了暑假去平d 地方玩.
小朋友上學係佢責 ...
Can't agree no more.
Parents should set up a good model for their children.


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發表於 13-6-2 00:34 |只看該作者

引用:Quote:tochest+發表於+13-6-1+23:59+大拿拿

原帖由 瑩瑩老豆 於 13-06-02 發表
這不能叫waste money 或富有, 個個家長都有旺季才可去玩的問題, 大不了暑假去平d 地方玩.
小朋友上學係佢責 ...
其實如果全港學校都唔介意學生請假外遊,好快暑假旺季價錢會改由六月尾開始!



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MissMaMa  哈哈, 咁家長會唔會唔考試去旅行, 然後仲話考試係無意義?  發表於 13-6-2 13:53


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發表於 13-6-2 02:46 |只看該作者
我諗好多學校現在都會出通告話唔可以請假去旅行, 因為唔出真係太多人咁做, 一班三十個人走十個八個真係唔知似咩. 不如倒轉想下, 如果呀老師話"果幾日真係無無聊聊無咩搞我要請假去旅行"又會俾幾多人插呢? 當然有人會話老師要工作有責任返學, 但學生的本份就係返學點解又可以因為無咩搞就請假去呢?

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Imagist  AGREE!  發表於 13-7-2 10:04
MissMaMa  一語道破, 盡本分是最重要.  發表於 13-6-2 13:54
hillgrove  well said !  發表於 13-6-2 09:32


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發表於 13-6-2 10:06 |只看該作者
本帖最後由 cpcog 於 13-6-2 10:09 編輯

回覆 Michelle_Hung 的帖子

how about being absent for the DSE (public exam)?

When I was in F7, I was the only one who didn't take leaves for AL exam after school mock exam. I regarded it was my duty to go to school. However, all of my classmates regarded it was useless to stay at school because school teachers won't be able to help much. They preferred to study at home. I was the only one to go to school for a few days and my teachers felt troublesome to "handle" me. Just put me into another form only. :( I can't forget those days.... :(

but it was for studies but not holiday.. should be difference? :)


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發表於 13-6-2 10:41 |只看該作者
cpcog 發表於 13-6-2 10:06
回覆 Michelle_Hung 的帖子

how about being absent for the DSE (public exam)?
The issue is whether parents should travel with the kids during school days. No more excuse la!

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cpcog  it's useless to keep arguing as we have different point of view. At least it won't happen on us. :)  發表於 13-6-2 11:06
cpcog  Will children respect school system if parents allow them to skip school for private tutoring? Same!  發表於 13-6-2 10:58
cpcog  Again, I am not encouraging parents doing that but it is  not a dead crime??  發表於 13-6-2 10:51


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發表於 13-6-2 11:28 |只看該作者
其實現在有很多家長覺得教仔女講大話是冇問題的。
我有一個親戚女兒讀非常出名中學,學校在網頁上登出很多其校學生比賽或讀書成績威水史,親戚女兒在學業上由以往小學頭10變成名校中學中間,成績當然不會上榜,親戚為了其女兒及其自己要有面子,就向人借一些弱區地址去報比賽(因在自己本區勁人多),剛巧比賽時同區撞到熟人,人地問其女兒你住這區嗎? 其女兒很快說''是'',親戚還向我們讚其女兒有''急才'',比賽果然勝出了,還很高興向我們說打算向學校呈交呢!

我相信親戚女兒在這6年中學生涯中仍要不斷講大話以滿足親戚虛榮感了!

我知讀此校學生家長來頭不少,有大律師、醫生等和藝人女兒,我真不知親戚有冇教其女兒又講大話呢?
這種病態是否由自卑做成呢?
讀名校真的要付出代價嗎?

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MissMaMa  大唔好教壤細,將來就會看到苦果.  發表於 13-6-2 13:49


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發表於 13-6-2 11:56 |只看該作者

回覆:點同學校請假去旅行?

can we try to think clearly? now we are discussing about postexam travel. if the school hv no objection or considerate for 樓主, it is totally not a wrong thing to do.
Please do not simply force people to believe your belief which sounds not logical at all:
postexam travel=school cannot accept ever
postexam travel=violate sch policy
postexam travel=irresponsible
postexam travel=must telling lies
postexam travel=bad role model for children
postexam travel=wrong and should be quilty
All of the above are not necessary equal, try not to set up rules first, try to communicate with schools and think further for the meanings of education.


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發表於 13-6-2 13:44 |只看該作者
本帖最後由 MissMaMa 於 13-6-2 13:48 編輯
Lovewall 發表於 13-6-2 11:56
can we try to think clearly? now we are discussing about postexam travel. if the school hv no obje ...

I respect your points of view. BK is a platform for discussing and expressing one's own thoughts. You can argue with someone but you can't force others to believe something. However, do you intend to force someone to believe your belief that sounds illogical? Hopefully you do not!

If you think going on a trip after the post-exam period is a good idea, just do it as you have your own choice. You know every one can have the freedom to choose what he/she wants to do.

To me, I do think parents set a bad model for kids if they escape from their school work for a trip. Even the so-called 'high management' of school allows parents to do, I don't think it is still a good idea to do so.

I just thought of the meaning of education. I think it is more than intellectual training as I think 'Whole Person' development is important as well.

I just want to express my opinion only. Again, I respect your opinion though I won't do the same.


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發表於 13-6-2 15:53 |只看該作者

引用:+本帖最後由+MissMaMa+於+13-6-2+13:48+編

原帖由 MissMaMa 於 13-06-02 發表
本帖最後由 MissMaMa 於 13-6-2 13:48 編輯
For sure I respect the choices of others, so that I will not say you are wrong if you do not go to travel with your child.
The key point is you will not judge others easily although they do something different from you. Please do not say you respect others if you judge others as a bad model of their children.
It is easily to become a judge of morality online without responsibility. If we say we should be a whole person with integrity, this is the very first thing to do. Do not judge without knowing the unique situations of others.
Respect is we can share different opinions with judgement. In addition, the reasonings of the judgement are so weak. I respect your choice and I don\'t even bother how you choose, but try to have a true respect to others without judgements.




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發表於 13-6-2 17:20 |只看該作者

引用:Quote:原帖由+MissMaMa+於+13-06-02+發表本

本帖最後由 木土土 於 13-6-2 17:22 編輯
原帖由 Lovewall 於 13-06-02 發表
For sure I respect the choices of others, so that I will not say you are wrong if you do not go to t ...

係咪請假帶小朋友去旅行,可以唔同家長有唔同睇法做法!但如果個case係講到知道學校唔會批准,但為了請假,而用唔同藉口向學校講大話,家長呢個做法對子女來說難道唔係bad model嗎?我唔會respect家長呢種做法!




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發表於 13-6-2 17:24 |只看該作者
回覆 Lovewall 的帖子

真理歪理已難分, 不得不慨嘆一句: 逃學威龍萬歲!



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發表於 13-6-2 17:26 |只看該作者
木土土 發表於 13-6-2 17:20
係咪請假帶小朋友去旅行,可以唔同家長有唔同睇法做法!但如果個case係講到知道學校唔會批准,但為了請假 ...

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發表於 13-6-2 17:36 |只看該作者

引用:Quote:原帖由+Lovewall+於+13-06-02+發表Fo

原帖由 木土土 於 13-06-02 發表
本帖最後由 木土土 於 13-6-2 17:22 編輯
i am not talking about telling lies, please refer to my previous comments.


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發表於 13-6-2 17:37 |只看該作者

引用:回覆+Lovewall+的帖子真理歪理已難分,+不得

原帖由 MissMaMa 於 13-06-02 發表
回覆 Lovewall 的帖子

真理歪理已難分, 不得不慨嘆一句: 逃學威龍萬歲!
it is not constructive to say such sentimental words in rational discussion.


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發表於 13-6-2 17:55 |只看該作者

引用:Quote:原帖由+木土土+於+13-06-02+發表本帖

原帖由 Lovewall 於 13-06-02 發表
i am not talking about telling lies, please refer to my previous comments.
事實係大部分香港學校都唔批准/唔鼓勵請假去旅行,所以呢到家長既comment多係refer呢種因而講大話既情況,你話人地唔respect others,只怕亦係有錯誤理解!




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發表於 13-6-2 17:58 |只看該作者

引用:Quote:原帖由+木土土+於+13-06-02+發表本帖

原帖由 Lovewall 於 13-06-02 發表
i am not talking about telling lies, please refer to my previous comments.
你認為如果學校講明唔准學生請假去旅行,家長是否(可以/應該/會)唔講大話,無視學校規條,理直氣壯咁請假去旅行呢?




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發表於 13-6-2 18:09 |只看該作者

引用:Quote:原帖由+Lovewall+於+13-06-02+發表i+

原帖由 木土土 於 13-06-02 發表
事實係大部分香港學校都唔批准/唔鼓勵請假去旅行,所以呢到家長既comment多係refer呢種因而講大話既情況, ...
it's meaningless to overgeneral the whole picture of the hong kong schools. you hv your experience, i hv mine.
please read clearly i try to share my viewpoint on respect, i.e. listen without judgement.
i think it is quite difficult to dicuss if we mix up the concepts.


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